{"id":1307,"date":"2020-03-03T15:37:56","date_gmt":"2020-03-03T14:37:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.balkan-conflicts-research.com\/archive\/?page_id=1307"},"modified":"2020-03-03T15:37:56","modified_gmt":"2020-03-03T14:37:56","slug":"abc-news-sat-oct-5-2002-milosevic-and-may","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.balkan-conflicts-research.com\/archive\/abc-news-sat-oct-5-2002-milosevic-and-may\/","title":{"rendered":"ABC news Sat, Oct 5 2002 &#8211; Milosevic and May"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>An interesting account of one of the many clashes between Slobodan Milosevic and the ICTY judge, Sir Richard May<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>ABC news<\/p>\n<p>Sat, Oct 5 2002 7:46 AM AEST<\/p>\n<p><strong>Milosevic clashes with judge over &#8216;protected&#8217; witness<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Slobodan Milosevic has clashed with the presiding judge at his war<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>crimes\u00a0trial over his cross-examination of a &#8220;protected&#8221; prosecution witness.The former Yugoslav president was cut short several times by Judge<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>Richard\u00a0May and ordered to stick to the point as he led the witness, a moderate\u00a0Croatian Serb politician identified only as C037, through a catalogue<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>of\u00a0alleged atrocities committed against Serbs in the Western Slavonia area<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>of\u00a0Croatia in late 1991.<\/p>\n<p>But it all got too much for the judge at one point, when Milosevic&#8217;s\u00a0microphone failed as he was asking a question. \u00a0Judge May snapped: &#8220;We can&#8217;t hear you but it sounds that what you are<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>saying\u00a0is irrelevant.&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>He went on: &#8220;You are trying to argue your entire case through this<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>witness,\u00a0which is a waste of the court&#8217;s time. If he simply read something in<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>the\u00a0paper, then that&#8217;s no use to anyone.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Milsoevic, who on Monday had questioned the credibility of the witness<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>onthe grounds that his evidence consisted almost entirely of hearsay,<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>denialsand memory lapses, then retorted: &#8220;Mr May, I expected you to make suchcomments to the prosecution in their examination.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He was asked if he heard about something or read it in a newspaper or<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>sawit on Croatian TV, but I am only asking him what he knows. So you<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>accepttestimony of something heard in the examination-in-chief but you are<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>notallowing me to do so.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Milosevic was also angry at a prosecution request to change the order<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>of\u00a0calling witnesses due to difficulties of people travelling to the\u00a0Netherlands.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>He said he thought the court had agreed to provide him with a list of<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>whowas to appear at least a week ahead. &#8220;There are 125,500 pages, 600videotapes and two to three hundred audio tapes and it is physically\u00a0impossible to view them all or even make a selection unless I have<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>notice a\u00a0few days in advance. If the prosecution try to use these tricks, it is\u00a0impermissible (sic).&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>May admonished him: &#8220;You are wrong to talk of tricks. There are always\u00a0difficulties getting witnesses here. We are conscious of the<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>difficulties ofthe amount of evidence we have served on you and the difficulty of<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>preparingyour defence.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The order of witnesses is not set in stone but we have to make sure<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>youhave time to prepare for each one and that is what we will do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After another lengthy period of cross-questioning in which Milosevic<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>triedto establish an inventory of how many Serbian villages in the region<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>hadbeen torched, May intervened again to warn him: &#8220;You are rehearsing at<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>greatlength and, if I may say so, with much repetition, that crimes were\u00a0committed against Serbs.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That may or may not be so but it is not relevant to our determining<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>whethercrimes were committed by you or by others.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Milosevic, who has refused to enter a plea over the war crimes chargesagainst him, hit back: &#8220;I wish to remind you that I am not concealing<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>myview that what you call an indictment is a false indictment, primarily<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>fortwo reasons.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;First of all, no aggression took place, it was a civil war, and<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>secondlythe Serbian people had this war imposed upon them both in Croatia and<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>in\u00a0Bosnia.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>&#8220;It is evident they were defending the territory where they lived and<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>were\u00a0trying to avoid pogroms such as those perpetrated 50 years earlier.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>That is\u00a0the only truth I am trying to explain here.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And denying he was contending that the other side was equally guilty,<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>heinsisted: &#8220;I have committed no crimes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Towards the end of the session, May halted him again and chided: &#8220;You<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>seem\u00a0to lose the focus of what a trial is for, which is to consider specificcharges, not some other wrong at some other time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Milosevic, 61, who is in the dock on more than 60 charges of war crimes<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>and\u00a0crimes against humanity for his involvement in the 1990s wars in<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>Kosovo,\u00a0Croatia and Bosnia, faces life behind bars if convicted.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting account of one of the many clashes between Slobodan Milosevic and the ICTY judge, Sir Richard May &nbsp; 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